Young Einstein - Rockin' with Relativity

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[00:01:04] Hi and welcome today.

[00:01:05] I'm joined by Tab and Micah and we're discussing, funnily enough,

[00:01:09] young Einstein from 1988, which is a bit of a departure for this this podcast.

[00:01:15] How are you guys going?

[00:01:16] Yeah, I'm doing great!

[00:01:18] We're good.

[00:01:19] I'm good.

[00:01:20] I'm excited to talk about this movie and I don't think either of us had seen this movie.

[00:01:24] No, I wasn't familiar with it.

[00:01:26] Oh, you'd never seen it?

[00:01:27] Great.

[00:01:28] Wow.

[00:01:29] That's amazing.

[00:01:30] I hadn't seen it for a long time.

[00:01:32] I watched it, I shouldn't say a long time.

[00:01:33] I think I watched it last year or year before, but then I was thinking more about the podcast

[00:01:39] and I was thinking "I need to change things up a little bit this year."

[00:01:42] So I'm thinking what I'll do is maybe... and I had the suggestion from a guest I had on

[00:01:46] a previous, we're just chatting after we finished recording.

[00:01:50] I said I was thinking of stretching things out a little bit, changing things a little

[00:01:54] bit and just maybe putting in a couple more movies that are kind of like a little better

[00:01:58] known than just some of the Ozzploitation stuff and that.

[00:02:02] Which is good because they still get a lot of lessons but just trying to broaden the scope

[00:02:08] a little bit.

[00:02:09] And then I think the suggestion was, and I think it's a good one, was like maybe do a

[00:02:12] movie like better known like this every three or four episodes and then do your other stuff

[00:02:18] in between.

[00:02:19] So I think I'll go with that.

[00:02:20] I'm still not sure.

[00:02:21] People keep saying you're going to do "Croggettoll and D," and I'm...

[00:02:24] Oh, see, I was thinking...

[00:02:25] That might be going too fairly a little.

[00:02:27] Maybe a bit too obvious.

[00:02:29] Yeah, it's too obvious, right?

[00:02:31] I was thinking Muriel's wedding because that was something I watched with my mom as a kid.

[00:02:36] Yeah, well that might be a good one to do as well, I guess.

[00:02:39] Just to kind of...

[00:02:40] I'm just thinking it might broaden the scope and the listenership a little bit more.

[00:02:44] We'll see how this one goes 'cause this is definitely an interesting film.

[00:02:50] So, just a bit of a summary for the movie.

[00:02:52] Young Ice own is essentially a pretty quirky and unconventional film that reimagines a

[00:02:57] life of Albert Einstein as a hilarious and peculiar young man, just kind of pretty close

[00:03:02] to the real Albert Einstein.

[00:03:04] That's true.

[00:03:05] Yeah, the film was directed, co-written, and doing everything is shahu serious.

[00:03:10] Also, in this cast is...

[00:03:13] How do you spell it?

[00:03:14] How do you pronounce it in an oodle little closet?

[00:03:17] Yeah, I think it's Odile.

[00:03:18] Yeah, Odile, is it?

[00:03:21] Yeah.

[00:03:22] As Murray Curie and John Howe and as the pompous Preston Preston, together they helped bring

[00:03:28] to life the film's blend of slapstick comedy, romance and scientific discovery, has a very

[00:03:35] catchy soundtrack featuring the likes of Ice House, The Stems and the Models.

[00:03:39] Young Einstein's a humorous and entertaining romp through history that is not to be missed.

[00:03:45] It's pretty fun for me, but you know, I was surprised watching it like how much I enjoyed

[00:03:49] it.

[00:03:50] I was like, it's very Australian in so far as it could almost be described as like some

[00:03:56] sort of almost a Australian tourism ad in a way, 'cause it's got so many locations and

[00:04:03] things like that.

[00:04:04] Yeah.

[00:04:05] The production value on it is just like, just point a camera and there's free production

[00:04:09] value.

[00:04:10] Yeah.

[00:04:11] That's just beautiful landscapes.

[00:04:12] It is, it's really good.

[00:04:14] It gets shown off very well.

[00:04:15] Amazing, you did it all for $5 million, which is quite quite amazing.

[00:04:18] Yeah, definitely amazing.

[00:04:20] This was 80...

[00:04:21] I think it was shot in '87 or something like that, so it makes some sense.

[00:04:25] Yeah, so it was released in Australia on the 15th of December 1988, and it was...

[00:04:31] And then in the US, about a year later in 1989, which I didn't think...

[00:04:35] I think movies were pretty different in those days.

[00:04:37] Now, I think you pretty much get simultaneous releases everywhere.

[00:04:40] Yeah.

[00:04:41] Maybe a day or two, maybe a week, but this is almost a year.

[00:04:45] I guess they'll wait and see how it went.

[00:04:47] It was released at the tail end of the Australian bicentenary year, which was 1988, which marked

[00:04:53] 200 years since the first fleet of convict ships arrived in Australia in 1788.

[00:04:58] So it was a very big year in Australia for all things Australian.

[00:05:01] I still remember all sorts of things happening.

[00:05:04] I was down by the harbor on Australia day that year, and it was pretty amazing.

[00:05:08] So it's very Australian day.

[00:05:10] So it was interesting that it got released in the same year as that.

[00:05:15] Like I was saying, the budget was $5 million.

[00:05:17] It took in $24.9 million globally, which isn't too bad for that movie.

[00:05:24] Yahoo!

[00:05:25] Yeah, that was the one that became interested in the idea of Albert Einstein.

[00:05:30] He was traveling the Amazon River and saw a local wearing a t-shirt with...

[00:05:35] You know, the picture of Albert Einstein with his tongue sticking.

[00:05:39] Yeah.

[00:05:40] Yeah.

[00:05:41] Yeah.

[00:05:42] Yeah.

[00:05:43] So you saw a local with that picture, and that's where he kind of got the idea.

[00:05:50] So...

[00:05:51] And then the screenplay was adapted from a previous script he written called The Great Galoot, which

[00:05:54] he's collaborated with Rochon pretty much all his movies, I think, for the young guy

[00:05:58] in St. Wreckers Kelly.

[00:05:59] And he said, "Mr. Accident or something, the third one?"

[00:06:02] Yeah.

[00:06:03] Mr. Accident, yeah.

[00:06:04] He was able to get funding from the Australian Film Commission and some private investment.

[00:06:07] And by March 1984, he'd filmed about an hour of the movie.

[00:06:12] He was then able to pre-sell the film for $2 million, which gave him the rest of the

[00:06:17] budget to complete the film.

[00:06:19] And when he saw the first version of the film, he didn't like it at all, apparently,

[00:06:23] that Graham Burke from Roadshow saw it and really liked it.

[00:06:27] So Roadshow bought Film Accord.

[00:06:29] I guess they bought their share out or whatever in 1987 in March and got Warner Bros to distribute

[00:06:35] the film outside of Australia and paid to redo parts of the film, which made it an hour

[00:06:40] longer.

[00:06:41] They also added new music, including some of the songs by Paul Kelly, Metal, etc.

[00:06:46] And this got the film to $5 million.

[00:06:48] Warner Bros.

[00:06:49] spent $8 million in promoting it in the US.

[00:06:54] It's all the money spent on promotions, especially in those days.

[00:06:57] Wow.

[00:06:58] Yeah.

[00:06:59] Amazing.

[00:07:00] Oh, it was funny to be interesting how much films spend on promotions, especially these

[00:07:05] days, right?

[00:07:06] Yeah.

[00:07:07] Yeah.

[00:07:08] I think I've read a thing that said for what they consider blockbusters, they're willing

[00:07:12] to spend half of the production cost.

[00:07:14] Isn't it amazing promoting it?

[00:07:17] Still, that's how it was back then.

[00:07:19] No, still now.

[00:07:20] Still, wow.

[00:07:21] See, they factor in, like, if it's something like a Marvel movie, for instance, they allot

[00:07:27] what would be half of the budget for promotion globally.

[00:07:30] Yeah.

[00:07:31] It's amazing when you think some of these movies cost like $300 million to it.

[00:07:35] Yeah.

[00:07:36] Just like Jesus.

[00:07:38] Oh, it's a big business.

[00:07:39] So I said that the Paul Kelly and the Mental Is Anything songs were added.

[00:07:43] Mental Is Anything does rock and roll music, right?

[00:07:45] So that whole rock and roll music ending was added?

[00:07:48] That wasn't the original ending.

[00:07:49] That ending was added apparently, yeah.

[00:07:51] Interesting.

[00:07:52] But also think they probably didn't have a lot of money for music licensing.

[00:07:55] So I'd say probably most of the music that made into the film was probably, you know,

[00:08:00] covered under that.

[00:08:01] So it has got some great music in it, which we'll talk about.

[00:08:04] The Paul Kelly songs.

[00:08:05] Amazing.

[00:08:06] Yeah, dumb things as great.

[00:08:07] Play them in the cover band.

[00:08:08] I mean, it's great band.

[00:08:09] It's awesome.

[00:08:10] Yeah, people dig it.

[00:08:11] It's great song.

[00:08:12] Yeah.

[00:08:13] And so I think it was made for his American promotion of the film, but they kind of talked

[00:08:19] about how in Australia, it was a really big deal.

[00:08:24] Like it had outsold a lot of popular movies from America and other countries.

[00:08:28] It was a massive film.

[00:08:30] It was a massive film.

[00:08:31] I think at the time it was the fifth biggest opening of a film in Australia when it came

[00:08:36] out.

[00:08:37] So it was really, really, really big for the time.

[00:08:41] So I'm assuming that's probably been done over by now.

[00:08:45] But definitely at the time it was, I remember once again, this is another film I'm probably

[00:08:49] guilty of not seeing at the movies probably because 1988.

[00:08:54] I just don't think I was going to the movies that often.

[00:08:56] How old was I?

[00:08:57] '62, '72, '82.

[00:08:58] So that was '26.

[00:08:59] I was probably doing all sorts of stuff then, but it wasn't going to a lot of movies, but

[00:09:04] the beef catching away.

[00:09:06] It does a piece.

[00:09:08] But I do remember seeing it on video, etc.

[00:09:11] So it was really big, and it was everywhere.

[00:09:13] I definitely remember how big it was.

[00:09:18] It didn't go very well in the US though.

[00:09:20] I don't think we were ready for it just because we're so...

[00:09:24] Anything that's outside of our sense of humor or our style in general tends to be sort

[00:09:30] of rejected until much later.

[00:09:33] Yeah, it's funny.

[00:09:34] I was watching a Siskel and Ebert review of the film, and they both didn't like it very

[00:09:40] much.

[00:09:41] Of course not.

[00:09:43] I just think they got the humor.

[00:09:48] Yeah.

[00:09:49] Maybe in those days, was this kind of around the beginning of, I'll say it, since Becani,

[00:09:55] the US love affair with Australia, '88?

[00:09:58] Was this around then?

[00:09:59] Win was promised about that week.

[00:10:00] I was just...

[00:10:01] We had to say, win was critical.

[00:10:02] There was a couple years before.

[00:10:03] So this may have been right in the middle of that.

[00:10:06] Right in the middle, yeah.

[00:10:08] Yeah, I think so, yeah.

[00:10:09] Because that's really when you start seeing like Muriel's wedding ended up being a really

[00:10:14] big movie over here.

[00:10:16] Yeah.

[00:10:17] And you know, Mad Max was a big deal here.

[00:10:22] And there were a couple of other Australian films, like, personal Queen of the Desert in

[00:10:28] certain circles was like a big deal.

[00:10:30] I think there were a bunch of Australian movies that we were kind of like, "Hey, this is really

[00:10:35] fun."

[00:10:36] A lot of music from there was kind of popular.

[00:10:38] Yeah, a lot of music as well, yeah.

[00:10:40] In excess, that's like the height of an excess popularity.

[00:10:42] It was, yeah, it was the whole period, weren't that?

[00:10:46] In the mid '80s, I think Dundee, I just looked up, Croble Old Dundee was '86.

[00:10:50] Okay.

[00:10:51] Okay.

[00:10:52] Okay.

[00:10:53] So about a year before it was '94, yeah, yeah.

[00:10:54] So we're definitely in that, in the Australian period of all that sort of stuff suddenly,

[00:11:01] you know, being...

[00:11:02] I think it was more that Australian kind of pop culture being sort of more popular around

[00:11:08] the world, especially in the US.

[00:11:10] Was Yahoo!

[00:11:11] Sirius known over here, or what was he kind of known for at the time?

[00:11:15] Because I wasn't familiar with them.

[00:11:16] I had heard his name here and there, but I wasn't really familiar with anything that

[00:11:21] he did.

[00:11:22] What was he kind of known for?

[00:11:23] Because he just came out of the blue with this movie.

[00:11:24] Oh, okay.

[00:11:25] I think he'd done like a couple of shorts or something like that.

[00:11:29] Like he went to an art school, he was expelled from the art school for, I think, for some

[00:11:35] graffiti on the outside walls of the art school, which is a bit odd that you get banned from

[00:11:39] an art school for doing art, but anyway, what the hell.

[00:11:42] And then he got into film that way, but he hadn't really done much.

[00:11:46] I think he pretty much came out of the blue.

[00:11:49] And then it's really interesting because he came out of the blue with this movie, then

[00:11:53] he made Reckless Kelly and Mr. Accident or whatever it was in 2000, Mr. Accident or

[00:11:59] was.

[00:12:00] And then he just faded away and doesn't really, he's not very well.

[00:12:04] No one really knows what's happened, where he is, what he's doing.

[00:12:08] He keeps himself very private.

[00:12:10] He apparently had another film he's made, but he's not releasing it because he's one

[00:12:15] of the co-stars in this movie he was married to, and they had a divorce and she was trying

[00:12:21] to get as much out of him as possible, so apparently, it's kind of like, well, these

[00:12:26] films aren't going to get released, well, there's a chance that you're going to take

[00:12:29] everything from them.

[00:12:30] So this is what I heard and read.

[00:12:33] So that's all internet stuff though.

[00:12:36] But yeah, so he's a bit of a recluse.

[00:12:38] Sometimes you'll see a story pop up quite weirdly in the Sydney Morning Herald or something

[00:12:43] of that, like Yahoo! serious, spotted at or something, that's really strange.

[00:12:48] But I'm not really sure where he kind of lives, and I'm assuming that the people live around

[00:12:54] him probably keeping private that way as well.

[00:12:57] They probably don't hassle him too much and whatnot, so he was born a Newcastle, so he

[00:13:02] might be living there still maybe.

[00:13:04] We came across a Q&A that he did from 2019 that was a first screening of this movie,

[00:13:10] and he did a Q&A beforehand, and that's like the most recent thing I think anybody had

[00:13:15] seen.

[00:13:16] Yeah, I saw that I didn't get time to watch it.

[00:13:18] I was going to watch it this morning or an airtime.

[00:13:19] It's really good.

[00:13:20] It seems like a nice guy.

[00:13:22] Yeah.

[00:13:23] Apparently, he's lovely.

[00:13:24] Yeah, he's just very reserved and sort of very much in his head, I think, because he

[00:13:29] would answer the question, and it was clear that he was really like doing some searching.

[00:13:34] Mm-hmm, in his mind, yeah.

[00:13:37] Yeah, so I guess if he wants to be a recluse, that's his choice.

[00:13:42] Mm-hmm.

[00:13:43] Interesting.

[00:13:44] A few things about it.

[00:13:45] He was a founding member of the Cocoda Track Foundation, and that foundation's like

[00:13:50] an international aid organization, and they work in Papua New Guinea, and it was established

[00:13:56] in 2003, and it supports the indigenous people of Papua New Guinea, and it provides health

[00:14:02] and community service programs, such as disaster relief, micro-business promotion,

[00:14:08] and sustainable ecotourism.

[00:14:11] If you have a look at...

[00:14:12] Yeah, his series has a website.

[00:14:15] I didn't get it up, but I thought, "Have you seen it?"

[00:14:17] It's actually...

[00:14:18] He actually has a website, look like it was made like in the 1990s.

[00:14:22] Oh, yeah.

[00:14:25] And but it's really quite interesting, and you can actually learn a bit about him there,

[00:14:30] but he's very much big on like indigenous, you know, sort of people.

[00:14:36] And that sort of thing is very...

[00:14:37] It's a weird website.

[00:14:38] It's yahooserious.com.

[00:14:39] I don't know if you can get it up on time now.

[00:14:41] It's taken me back.

[00:14:43] Yeah, it's like, it's got flashing, you know.

[00:14:46] It looks like a sign I would have made in high school.

[00:14:48] Yeah, that's what it looks like.

[00:14:50] Yeah.

[00:14:51] And he's got weird things out, like, do not click here, and then it says, "10 seconds,

[00:14:54] see a hard drive's a raise," and of course that doesn't happen.

[00:14:57] That's funny.

[00:14:58] It's very quite strange, but he's obviously a very eccentric individual, but also quite

[00:15:07] artistic.

[00:15:08] So it's good.

[00:15:10] So what are your initial thoughts on the film?

[00:15:12] Well, I wasn't, like I said, I wasn't really familiar with him, this movie, or any of his

[00:15:16] work going into it, so I didn't really know what to expect.

[00:15:19] Tab has this in her notes, but just seeing the poster, I was like, "Oh, maybe this is

[00:15:23] an Australian like, polyshore kind of type movie," or whatever, it was actually much more

[00:15:28] than that.

[00:15:29] It was delightful.

[00:15:30] It was so weird and quirky and fun, and there is the bit to minute ratio in this movie.

[00:15:38] The comedy bit to minute ratio is insane, and every time you watch it, there's like new

[00:15:42] bits that kind of pop up, and it's just, I had so much fun watching it.

[00:15:48] Oh, that's good.

[00:15:49] I'm glad you did.

[00:15:50] Yeah, it's good.

[00:15:51] It's always interesting when you watch a movie for the first time, and you don't really

[00:15:53] know what to expect, and then you have that sort of thing.

[00:15:56] I was telling Tab before I watched it before she did, and I was like, it's like he picked

[00:16:00] the perfect movie for the two of us, because it's very science-heavy in the references

[00:16:06] and stuff, but then there's also rock music and great needle drops, and it's just like

[00:16:11] a perfect mashup of the two of us.

[00:16:13] So nice job on that.

[00:16:15] It was pretty obvious when I was thinking about who to do it with.

[00:16:17] I was actually thinking about you guys.

[00:16:21] That's perfect.

[00:16:22] That's awesome.

[00:16:23] I knew you'd get it.

[00:16:25] Yeah.

[00:16:26] My kid brought up Polyshore, and then when I watched it, it's also kind of like Peewee

[00:16:29] Herman a little bit.

[00:16:30] He's got like a child like quality, and the way that Peewee Herman does.

[00:16:35] I guess Polyshore has that too, but this movie's a lot smarter than a Polyshore.

[00:16:40] It's a smarter Polyshore.

[00:16:42] Peewee Herman.

[00:16:43] It's interesting.

[00:16:44] It's got some interesting themes.

[00:16:45] Yeah.

[00:16:46] But it is very lighthearted.

[00:16:48] Yeah.

[00:16:49] There's a lot of really fun sight gags.

[00:16:51] One of the things that I noticed that I was so tickled by is I think that there's a spoof

[00:16:55] of Man from Snowy River.

[00:16:58] He's riding a horse, and it's almost a vertical shot of him riding a horse down a hill.

[00:17:03] I'd say so.

[00:17:04] Man from Snowy River was a movie that I watched a lot with my parents, and I was like, "Hey."

[00:17:09] There you go.

[00:17:10] And then when he's going to the hotel, the hotel is at the end of Lonely Street, which

[00:17:15] is...

[00:17:16] Yeah, she had to point that out.

[00:17:17] I miss that.

[00:17:18] Oh, you missed that?

[00:17:19] Yeah, it's crazy.

[00:17:20] That's the thing.

[00:17:21] It's like the bit per minute ratio is insane.

[00:17:22] I couldn't keep up with all of it.

[00:17:25] I was thinking at least they didn't name the hotel, heartbreak hotel, would be overly obvious,

[00:17:29] so I think it's good they did what they did.

[00:17:31] Yeah.

[00:17:32] The hotel stuff's really interesting with the...

[00:17:34] There's always these shots of these women that live in the hotel, and I'm not sure what

[00:17:38] their profession is, but I've got a fair idea, but they're always asking these really deep

[00:17:43] science questions by the end.

[00:17:45] It's like a turn off.

[00:17:46] Oh, yeah.

[00:17:47] Yeah, it's really funny.

[00:17:48] And even the guy that runs the hotel is asking, but if light moves at a speed faster than

[00:17:58] weekend, then what about this?

[00:18:01] Yeah.

[00:18:02] Like they've been debating it while he's been gone.

[00:18:04] Yes.

[00:18:05] That's all they're talking about there.

[00:18:06] And then they want him to...

[00:18:08] Yeah.

[00:18:09] It's pretty funny, pretty funny.

[00:18:11] I like that.

[00:18:12] For me, it's just another re-watch, right?

[00:18:15] But I hadn't seen it for a while and I just really enjoyed watching it.

[00:18:19] It was just a fun thing to watch.

[00:18:21] I ended up watching it on, well, I actually bought it on Apple TV because it's...

[00:18:26] Or on Apple, whatever it's called, Apple Movies because it's not available streaming anywhere

[00:18:32] in Australia that I could see.

[00:18:35] So the only place you seem to be able to get it is in like paid sites.

[00:18:39] So I guess I could have cheated and VPN'd into, where did you guys watch it?

[00:18:43] Prime.

[00:18:44] And you rented it on Prime?

[00:18:45] I rented it on Prime.

[00:18:46] Are you rented on Prime?

[00:18:47] Yeah.

[00:18:48] So it's not really available to stream anywhere.

[00:18:49] So some funny licensing issues, it's a movie I'd like to see like somebody...

[00:18:54] I'm looking at you umbrella entertainment to release and do a really nice Blu-ray release

[00:19:00] of it because it's got some great like you were alluding to before.

[00:19:05] Some of the nature shots are fantastic.

[00:19:07] Oh yeah.

[00:19:08] In 4K or Blu-ray, that would look gorgeous.

[00:19:11] Yeah.

[00:19:12] Especially if it was remastered and everything like that.

[00:19:15] Yeah.

[00:19:16] Especially if they could drag him out for a commentary or an interview or something like

[00:19:21] current days sort of stuff and it would be a really good release.

[00:19:25] You'd probably be willing to do it because at that screening, he seems really excited

[00:19:29] to be there and excited to know people love the movie.

[00:19:32] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[00:19:33] Yeah.

[00:19:34] So it would be really good.

[00:19:35] So that's just another one on my list that I want umbrella to do.

[00:19:38] The other one is Starstruck.

[00:19:40] Yes.

[00:19:41] Yes.

[00:19:42] I love it.

[00:19:43] It's alright.

[00:19:44] But I got houseboat horror from them last week, so that's fine.

[00:19:46] I'm happy with that.

[00:19:47] Yeah.

[00:19:48] I'll probably I'll definitely do an episode on that movie.

[00:19:51] It's crazy.

[00:19:53] I was talking to Jacob today.

[00:19:54] I am a former co-host of Test Pattern and he loves this movie.

[00:19:59] This was a childhood favorite of his.

[00:20:01] And when I told him we were doing it, he was like, oh my gosh.

[00:20:05] I should have got him on as well.

[00:20:06] We should know. Yeah.

[00:20:07] Four people.

[00:20:08] Well, and that's funny because Chris is also a big fan of Yahoo!

[00:20:13] Serious. Apparently he was he liked watching his movies as a kid.

[00:20:17] And I think for a short period of time, Yahoo!

[00:20:19] Serious was on MTV is he was like a show.

[00:20:23] Yeah. I saw that this morning.

[00:20:24] I sort of clipped this morning from that.

[00:20:27] And it was some guy he had on, obviously some actor or something.

[00:20:30] Or some playing a strong man.

[00:20:33] Yeah, we saw.

[00:20:36] He was lifting his own body weight.

[00:20:38] It was really dumb.

[00:20:41] But anyway, I mean, it's a very like that.

[00:20:45] The movie is really flipping in that way.

[00:20:47] It's not really like it's a really fun movie.

[00:20:50] It's got a couple of messages in there, kind of, which is sort of half serious, you know,

[00:20:55] the whole Charles Darwin bit.

[00:20:57] I think there's a bit near the end where Preston Preston's up near Charles Darwin

[00:21:03] and saying something about, can you save us or something?

[00:21:05] And there's this big thing about it's an atomic bomb.

[00:21:08] You can't run away. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:21:10] Kind of deep.

[00:21:11] And also, I guess at that time, like we're talking in the mid 80s or mid late 80s,

[00:21:16] that sort of thing was pretty topical as well.

[00:21:19] Yeah, that's true.

[00:21:20] I mean, it was like right as the Cold War was sort of easing off.

[00:21:23] So probably like a decade or a couple of decades spent, you know,

[00:21:28] worrying about Russia nuking us or a nuclear war breaking out between us

[00:21:34] and Russia for people that were living not in America or Russia.

[00:21:39] Yeah, yeah. So it was pretty topical that way.

[00:21:42] I think it was interesting.

[00:21:44] Like they're one of the things I was thinking about when I was watching the

[00:21:47] movie that I want to discuss as well is some of the parallels between

[00:21:52] young Einstein and Albert Einstein.

[00:21:54] It's very interesting the way it is sort of done that, you know, but he's obviously,

[00:21:59] and I think this is the Cisco and Ebot thing was they thought it was really dumb

[00:22:03] that it was all about splitting beer atoms.

[00:22:05] And I'm like, well, it's an Australian movie.

[00:22:07] It's cause it's going to be splitting beer atoms because it is.

[00:22:11] Yeah, Einstein also didn't like grow up on an apple farm in Tanzania.

[00:22:15] What are we talking about?

[00:22:17] He also didn't invent the surfboard or rock and roll it.

[00:22:21] But there's kind of these funny things like that.

[00:22:24] The scene where he where he sort of watches the girls do the what they call

[00:22:30] that. I don't know what they call it.

[00:22:31] Is it like a jumping jacks thing or something where they've got the squares on the ground?

[00:22:35] Hopscotch is what we call it.

[00:22:37] The hopscotch.

[00:22:38] That's it. That's it.

[00:22:39] I forgot.

[00:22:39] I haven't had to go into what it is four four.

[00:22:42] Yeah. Yeah, apparently.

[00:22:44] I don't know how he got into six eight and all those other tempos,

[00:22:48] but any or whatever, yeah, time signatures, but yeah, that's a really interesting scene.

[00:22:52] And the other thing I think is funny, I'm going all over the place, but that's fine.

[00:22:56] We just kind of how this movie works.

[00:22:58] Sort of.

[00:22:58] It is kind of how this movie, it's like almost every second scene you're seeing

[00:23:03] in begins or ends with him eating an apple.

[00:23:07] Did you notice that?

[00:23:08] Yeah.

[00:23:08] He's always going to have all his like a bite and they just throws it every shot.

[00:23:12] It's sort of like his spinach kind of his papa.

[00:23:14] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:15] Yeah.

[00:23:15] He needs it to think.

[00:23:16] Yeah.

[00:23:17] Yeah.

[00:23:17] It's really, yeah, it's good.

[00:23:19] And yeah, the beer addams things funny because he obviously he grows up on this farm

[00:23:23] and his father's got a still and tries to, you know, can't get a good head on the beer.

[00:23:30] And his father says, you know, someone can add bubbles and it'd be perfect.

[00:23:33] So he starts thinking about it blows up the still.

[00:23:36] Yeah.

[00:23:37] And it's quite good.

[00:23:40] I love that he sort of like, he thinks that he invented, he discovered gravity.

[00:23:44] But then his mom is like, Oh, yeah, what, what goes up must come down.

[00:23:47] Like, like Isaac Newton came up with that.

[00:23:50] So they kind of like, they don't give him credit for that.

[00:23:52] But he thought that he had that idea.

[00:23:54] Yeah.

[00:23:54] Yeah.

[00:23:55] Yeah.

[00:23:55] Yeah.

[00:23:56] It's quite funny.

[00:23:57] Then there's, you know, the, the whole thing about them.

[00:24:01] And there was like, when he leaves home, probably one of my favorite scenes and it sounds like

[00:24:04] I'm just being very jingoistic, I guess.

[00:24:06] But just the fact that that whole scene with great, southern land playing over the top

[00:24:10] of the traveling, yeah, is just really, there's some amazing, like, nature shots in there.

[00:24:16] And oh, absolutely.

[00:24:17] It's really good.

[00:24:18] Yeah.

[00:24:18] It took a point whenever we were watching it that when they're standing out and the

[00:24:22] dad is like asking, like, him to put bubbles in beer or whatever, and they're looking out

[00:24:27] over that valley, or no one's asking him to damn the valley.

[00:24:29] That's what it is.

[00:24:30] But she was like, imagine you walk into your backyard and that's what you have to look

[00:24:33] at.

[00:24:34] And I was like, that's incredible.

[00:24:36] Yeah.

[00:24:36] It's quite much.

[00:24:37] We brought up the fact that we thought about like, oh, it's kind of like, Paulie shore, except

[00:24:41] for when you watch a Paulie shore movie, it's just America.

[00:24:44] So it doesn't look beautiful.

[00:24:47] Doesn't have the same way.

[00:24:48] It's just like a stupid movie.

[00:24:50] Yeah.

[00:24:51] As close as you get is like, son in law.

[00:24:53] Yeah.

[00:24:53] Yeah.

[00:24:54] You just see, like, farm, if you're lucky, this movie is a wacky comedy movie that's

[00:25:00] then also has some of the most beautiful backdrops.

[00:25:03] Yeah.

[00:25:04] Yeah.

[00:25:04] But what's really interesting, I had a look where it was filmed.

[00:25:07] None of it's filmed in Tasmania.

[00:25:09] Oh, well, yeah.

[00:25:10] I think the shot where he was talking to his father about damming and they're

[00:25:15] looking out.

[00:25:16] I think that's the Blue Mountains up in, well, it's only about an hour and a half

[00:25:20] from where I live now.

[00:25:21] But a lot of the other scenes are in Sydney and in Newcastle and things like that.

[00:25:26] So, yeah, I was looking at because I thought, I may be surely some of this is

[00:25:30] filmed in Tasmania.

[00:25:31] It's like, no.

[00:25:32] So very interesting.

[00:25:36] Yeah.

[00:25:37] The locations are great.

[00:25:38] That scene's really fantastic.

[00:25:39] And any scenes you guys like in particular?

[00:25:42] Mine kind of ended up being the little small bits, more than like whole scenes.

[00:25:48] Like, I've loved for some reason I kept cracking up at when he's going to

[00:25:51] college and there's the sheep herder that's like taking all the sheep or whatever.

[00:25:55] And then like to learn how to be a sheep herder.

[00:25:58] And then there's like a throwaway gag where he's dragging one out and he's like,

[00:26:01] you failed and he's dragging it out the door.

[00:26:03] That cracked me up.

[00:26:04] The break glass in case of, but they break it with an axe to get an other axe.

[00:26:10] That looks identical.

[00:26:12] It looks identical.

[00:26:13] It's the same axe, that cracked me up.

[00:26:15] It's bold, but the kitten pie bit was funny to me.

[00:26:19] And like that just knowing that it's going to drive audience is crazy and then

[00:26:24] having the reveal that they're OK.

[00:26:25] Yeah.

[00:26:26] Yeah.

[00:26:26] Yeah.

[00:26:27] I love that.

[00:26:28] Like the guy cooking those cats is Roger Ward, who is in Mad Max and a lot of

[00:26:34] those Turkey shoot and quite a few sort of maybe interesting.

[00:26:37] Yeah, please, Chief, and Radmach.

[00:26:40] Yes, I knew he looked familiar.

[00:26:42] Yeah, he just watched all the Mad Max movies a couple of weeks ago.

[00:26:46] Yeah.

[00:26:46] Yeah.

[00:26:47] Those little gags were some of the best parts for me.

[00:26:50] Really, the through line of the romance really worked for me.

[00:26:52] I found them really sweet.

[00:26:54] It's obviously completely fictionalized, but I liked her performance a lot.

[00:26:59] And I found them really sweet together.

[00:27:01] And that scene with them on the beach and that fantastic fucking stem song.

[00:27:05] Yeah.

[00:27:05] Yeah.

[00:27:06] Is just amazing.

[00:27:08] Like the music in this, it's interesting.

[00:27:11] Like the songs they pick for this is just perfect for the scenes.

[00:27:16] They're in it's really good.

[00:27:18] I'm definitely going to try them down the soundtrack.

[00:27:20] Well, you can try and find it.

[00:27:22] I used to have it on cassette.

[00:27:24] Oh, wow.

[00:27:25] Is it kind of rare?

[00:27:26] Well, it's not on Spotify.

[00:27:28] The songs like these songs are on Spotify.

[00:27:31] Yeah.

[00:27:31] People have made playlists that are like names, whatever it is,

[00:27:34] but I'd like to track down like a CD of it or something.

[00:27:37] I'm sure there's a city, I'm sure you go on eBay and find something.

[00:27:40] Yeah.

[00:27:40] So yeah, it would definitely be out of print.

[00:27:43] So I don't know what sort of money they'd be asking for it.

[00:27:46] But I'd tell it'd be a lot.

[00:27:47] I don't know.

[00:27:47] And it'd be worth it.

[00:27:48] I don't know how big it would be.

[00:27:50] I'm thinking the same thing.

[00:27:51] A bit to see what the price is because that gives you an idea

[00:27:55] about what sort of cult standing the movie has.

[00:27:58] If you know what I mean.

[00:27:58] Yeah, yeah.

[00:27:59] Because if it's not going to be that expensive, it's not going to be very,

[00:28:03] you know, it's not a big audience for it.

[00:28:05] But if it's really expensive, then it's obvious in the audience.

[00:28:08] So discogs might be another good place to look for CDs and maybe vinyl for this.

[00:28:14] So yeah.

[00:28:15] Yeah.

[00:28:16] Mango is able to find the record for Stardust.

[00:28:18] So yes, you do.

[00:28:19] It's a starstruck.

[00:28:21] Yeah.

[00:28:21] So anything is a promo only version of it.

[00:28:24] Oh really?

[00:28:25] Yeah.

[00:28:26] Have you played it?

[00:28:26] Yeah.

[00:28:27] I have like a couple of times.

[00:28:28] Yeah.

[00:28:29] It sounds great.

[00:28:29] Oh yeah.

[00:28:30] Sounds great.

[00:28:31] Yeah.

[00:28:31] Yeah, I was going to try and pick one up for myself.

[00:28:33] God, I love that movie.

[00:28:35] I don't know why.

[00:28:35] Didn't I?

[00:28:36] It's so much fun.

[00:28:37] Well, it's a bit like this one, isn't it?

[00:28:39] Right?

[00:28:39] There's nothing like there's no real muscle.

[00:28:42] There's high stakes to it agree in this one.

[00:28:45] And but nothing really downer or it's all fun.

[00:28:49] And it's a different kind of absurdity than say like English humour, which is similar in

[00:28:55] the absurd, but it's just a different kind that speaks to me more, really.

[00:28:59] Yeah.

[00:28:59] Yeah.

[00:29:00] Yeah.

[00:29:00] There's a more of a lighthearted feel to it than British humour, I think.

[00:29:03] Yeah, definitely.

[00:29:04] Yeah.

[00:29:04] Yeah.

[00:29:04] It's got that it's very Australian.

[00:29:07] Yeah.

[00:29:07] It's probably the best way to put it.

[00:29:08] Yeah.

[00:29:09] How about you tap Gevany scenes or you like Michael E there's just like vignettes.

[00:29:14] I mean, I really loved the ending where he's playing the concert for everybody, he's playing

[00:29:20] rock and roll music, and there's the girls screaming.

[00:29:23] Yeah.

[00:29:24] And then his well, it's Mary Kerri.

[00:29:27] Mary Kerri is sort of like looking at the girls screaming and just sort of baffled by

[00:29:33] that.

[00:29:34] But you can also see that she really likes him.

[00:29:36] Yeah.

[00:29:37] And it's just very sweet.

[00:29:39] Yeah, and I do like the scene where when he goes to Marry Kerri's place and her father's

[00:29:46] there and there are, he climbs in the window and he comes up and he basically commoniers.

[00:29:52] I just noticed you've got a bloon, a hot air balloon.

[00:29:56] Yeah.

[00:29:57] We're gonna take this hot air balloon and go and it's just really funny how they just

[00:30:02] do that.

[00:30:03] Yeah.

[00:30:04] We also really love the part where he's talking to the sex worker about what he's doing and

[00:30:09] she's like, "I'm really tired, I'm gonna go to bed."

[00:30:12] And he's like, "Okay, night."

[00:30:13] Yeah.

[00:30:14] He's like, "There's that beat and just night."

[00:30:17] And that's his partner right there and get the time, right?

[00:30:21] That's his, yeah.

[00:30:22] I think it is, yeah.

[00:30:24] Yeah.

[00:30:25] Yeah, so yeah, very sort of.

[00:30:28] And then his mother, played by Sue Crookshank, I think it is, is always asking father for

[00:30:37] a bit of fun on the side when he keeps sort of waving her off sort of thing, which is

[00:30:42] a bit sad but anyway.

[00:30:43] It's a fun twist of the roles, though, is the joke would have normally been like her

[00:30:47] not wanting to or whatever.

[00:30:49] Yeah, yeah.

[00:30:50] As far as parts of the movie that haven't dated well and I usually bring this up a lot

[00:30:56] in movies we do, because they're older, is I guess the asylum piece, although it's funny,

[00:31:01] there's a few bits there that obviously you wouldn't see in movies today.

[00:31:05] Yeah.

[00:31:06] But I kind of find, it was still an interesting scene.

[00:31:07] I thought it was interesting that they seemed to, the people he was with were all obviously

[00:31:12] scientists or something and for whatever reason, maybe it was the time they were all locked

[00:31:19] away in an insane asylum.

[00:31:20] And the mad scientist ward.

[00:31:22] The mad scientist.

[00:31:23] I like the atmosphere of that whole place.

[00:31:25] It had a very eerie, it kind of gets sort of horror in that moment a little bit.

[00:31:30] Oh, definitely.

[00:31:32] Yeah.

[00:31:33] Yeah, it's a bit spooky, but yeah, it's good.

[00:31:35] I think that was shot up in Newcastle.

[00:31:37] There's like a place up there that sort of had those sort of buildings in it, so that

[00:31:41] could be wrong but I think that was shot up there.

[00:31:44] So yeah, interesting scene.

[00:31:46] I loved his whole process of like electrifying the violin and then by the end of it he's

[00:31:51] kind of built a guitar and I really wanted to like get a good shot of it and pause it

[00:31:55] so I could look at all the stuff going on with his guitar, like really creative and

[00:32:00] I've been kind of on a Led Zeppelin kick lately.

[00:32:03] So the bow, the electrified bow and all that just immediately made me think Jimmy Page.

[00:32:07] I thought that was really cool.

[00:32:09] And the shot at the beginning, the bit at the beginning of the movie where he's playing

[00:32:13] the violin in the bar, he's actually washing up dishes and he plays the roof from satisfaction

[00:32:18] on his.

[00:32:19] That's what that was.

[00:32:20] I was trying to place what that was.

[00:32:22] Yeah.

[00:32:23] That makes sense.

[00:32:25] I just thought it was odd that he was in the bath and then he's washing up with the

[00:32:27] sounds of a bit gross but I guess that's a joke.

[00:32:30] Does his dad say something of like, I think we need to get a bigger bucket or something

[00:32:33] like that?

[00:32:34] I guess that's something a comment of like, I don't think he fits in that.

[00:32:37] He's dad's played by Pee Wee Wilson.

[00:32:42] Pee Wee Wilson was in a band called The Deltones I think in Australia.

[00:32:47] Like a retro sort of '60s, although I think around the '60s as well, '60s, '70s sort

[00:32:54] of band.

[00:32:55] Yeah.

[00:32:56] So it's an interesting people in this movie.

[00:32:58] Sue Crookshank is also in quite a few movies as well and she's quite funny in this as well.

[00:33:05] It's his mother.

[00:33:06] Mrs. Einstein, it says in here, but she's been in quite a few movies as well.

[00:33:11] Well, she's a lot of TV shows as well.

[00:33:15] Yeah, the guitar thing's great.

[00:33:17] I was thinking when you were talking about that, I was like, I wonder what happened to

[00:33:20] all those props.

[00:33:22] Yeah, yeah.

[00:33:23] I'd love to.

[00:33:24] I mean, I'm sure it would be outrageously priced to find one of them, but they probably

[00:33:27] made duplicates, I'm sure.

[00:33:29] I'm sure.

[00:33:30] Yeah.

[00:33:31] Somebody has to have a destroyed one.

[00:33:33] Yeah.

[00:33:34] I bet you have sold half of them.

[00:33:35] Yeah.

[00:33:36] It probably does some way.

[00:33:37] They're probably just sitting in a cupboard.

[00:33:38] And I wonder if they played.

[00:33:40] Like if they actually made a sound, like the violin maybe would be more likely than the

[00:33:44] guitar because the guitar was sort of odd shaped, but.

[00:33:48] And that whole scene, so that awards scene, what awards was the science academy awards?

[00:33:53] I was assigned.

[00:33:54] I think it was a made-up kind of thing, but yeah.

[00:33:57] I think so too.

[00:33:58] Yeah.

[00:33:59] It was quite funny.

[00:34:00] That was all in this shot and it looked like the state theatre in Sydney, which is a beautiful

[00:34:04] old theatre in Sydney.

[00:34:05] It's where I first saw Jaws when it was released.

[00:34:08] Wow.

[00:34:09] What a place to see it.

[00:34:11] Yeah.

[00:34:12] Yeah.

[00:34:13] So they did a special screening of Jaws again at the state theatre, so I went to that as

[00:34:18] well.

[00:34:19] That's awesome.

[00:34:20] It's a beautiful theatre.

[00:34:21] If you're in Sydney, it's definitely worth having a look.

[00:34:22] You can do tours of it as well.

[00:34:24] It's like, it's very old, but it's right in the middle of Sydney around all these bustling

[00:34:29] new buildings and shopping malls and stuff like that.

[00:34:33] But it's a great place.

[00:34:34] They do lots of stage stuff there these days.

[00:34:36] So mostly, you know, like comedy shows or plays and musicals and stuff like that.

[00:34:40] It's not a really big theatre, but it's really great for that sort of thing that the front

[00:34:45] of the theatre is so ornate where you can see it in that.

[00:34:48] So it's very ornate and definitely a good place to be.

[00:34:51] So it's kind of like where Tab and I saw Goblin play the score just as period where

[00:34:56] they kind of had a screen, but it was made for bands to play also and stuff.

[00:35:00] Yeah.

[00:35:01] Yeah.

[00:35:02] That would have been great.

[00:35:03] Yeah.

[00:35:04] When did you see?

[00:35:05] Back in October.

[00:35:06] Yeah.

[00:35:07] It was like right before Halloween.

[00:35:08] Mm-hmm.

[00:35:09] Yeah.

[00:35:10] It was really fun.

[00:35:11] And they did like a little, they played the score with the movie and then they did like

[00:35:16] a little concert afterwards.

[00:35:17] Yeah.

[00:35:18] And the audience was like-

[00:35:19] They're original stuff.

[00:35:20] Seated for the movie and everything.

[00:35:21] And then as they started playing normal stuff, they sort of filtered up and then it turned

[00:35:24] into a rock show basically.

[00:35:26] That's awesome.

[00:35:27] Yeah.

[00:35:28] It's a lot of fun.

[00:35:29] Yeah.

[00:35:30] That would be great to see.

[00:35:31] It's like I always thought, I would love to see John Carpenter because he does a lot

[00:35:33] of things.

[00:35:34] Oh yeah.

[00:35:35] He plays with his son.

[00:35:36] Yeah.

[00:35:37] I live too far away so I have been eyeing off weather.

[00:35:43] I can afford to make Halloween Horror Nights this year but I don't know how you see.

[00:35:48] I'd like to.

[00:35:49] It's been a few years since I've been-

[00:35:50] Yeah, the pandemic kind of killed that for years a little bit.

[00:35:53] Filled that.

[00:35:54] I did like a, I think almost a five year streak going to that.

[00:35:56] Wow.

[00:35:57] It mostly worked out because of where I was working at the time.

[00:35:59] They always had their yearly get together in October so I'd just stay a bit longer and

[00:36:04] get a horror and I so anyway so good what else anyone could have the stuff that I wanted.

[00:36:11] I was going to say that I know that it's not historically accurate but all of the science

[00:36:16] is accurate right like all of the theories, formulas, all that stuff is correct right?

[00:36:23] Yeah I mean they are talking about real science.

[00:36:25] Yeah.

[00:36:26] Yeah.

[00:36:27] That's cool that it works sort of like an educational film in that way.

[00:36:29] It's absurd but also educational if you remember those lines you know that theory now.

[00:36:34] Yeah and they sort of explain it in layman's terms.

[00:36:38] It really reminded me of this book that my dad got from me when I was young.

[00:36:41] It was called The Time and Space of Uncle Albert and it's written for like middle school

[00:36:46] kids.

[00:36:47] Okay.

[00:36:48] By a particle physicist and he basically tells the story about Albert Einstein sending his

[00:36:55] fictional niece into space to prove the theory of relativity but it teaches kids the theory

[00:37:01] of relativity in a very understandable and fun way and apparently it's become a series.

[00:37:07] I only ever read the first one.

[00:37:08] I don't think the second book had been published when I was younger.

[00:37:11] I would say you can read it as an adult too because it's really fun but if you want to

[00:37:16] understand the theory of relativity and you'd want to do it not in a very technical sense

[00:37:22] that's a great way to do it.

[00:37:24] Yeah absolutely.

[00:37:25] Yeah I think that was great.

[00:37:26] I think it's funny when they were calling so many people would like what was it equal

[00:37:31] MC Square or M?

[00:37:34] M?

[00:37:35] M for me.

[00:37:37] It was interesting that the parallels are interesting like Albert Einstein and Young

[00:37:43] Einstein you know in the movie I guess the parallels are both known for like their unconventional

[00:37:50] thinking and their willingness to challenge scientific theories and such.

[00:37:57] Albert Einstein was known for having a really sort of off the wall sense of humor and didn't

[00:38:02] take himself too seriously.

[00:38:04] He was one of the first people you know people always talk about Steve Jobs like wearing

[00:38:07] the same thing every day so that they don't have to like pick out an outfit.

[00:38:11] Albert Einstein was one of their first notable people to do that because he was like I have

[00:38:16] better things to do than pick out an outfit I'm just gonna wear the same thing every day.

[00:38:19] Yeah that's one last thing I think.

[00:38:20] Right and his hair was also like that because he was like am I gonna spend time coming to

[00:38:26] my hair?

[00:38:27] Am I gonna work on this formula you know so he didn't like really brush his hair that

[00:38:31] often because he saw it as a waste of time.

[00:38:34] So do you think that was the thinking behind the hair in the movie as well?

[00:38:39] Oh yeah I think so.

[00:38:41] I think so too it's it also seems like that's how he was wearing his hair at the time because

[00:38:46] when we saw the interviews that's that's how he wore it and in the interview if we saw

[00:38:52] he said oh you know it's been blue it's been green but it always kind of looks like this

[00:38:57] and then it seems like when he gets to Racco's Kelly he's not doing his hair that way anymore

[00:39:02] he just looks sort of like long surfer hair at that moment.

[00:39:06] I do like whenever he's working for the patent office and he has it like gelled kind of into

[00:39:10] this like flocke seagulls looking thing but bigger like yeah yeah so that's his fancy

[00:39:17] version.

[00:39:18] Yeah.

[00:39:19] Just seen that the starry is cutting his hair as well.

[00:39:21] Yeah.

[00:39:22] He hit the bucket on his head and he pulls it off just balloons out.

[00:39:25] It's great it's good balloons out yeah.

[00:39:27] You know like sideshow Bob was I was thinking like here at top yeah side show Bob yeah

[00:39:32] totally.

[00:39:33] Maybe they all stole it from Yahoo serious maybe yeah well I could definitely think

[00:39:37] Yea, it's cool, it's cool. I've talked about the music a bit. The actual soundtrack itself, besides the songs that are in there is pretty good. I kind of enjoyed that.

[00:39:55] I just also did the score. So it's really good that way. The songs I just really, in so far as music in Australia at that period of time, I don't think it could have picked better, more eclectic lists.

[00:40:14] You've got your big hits like Great Southern Land. It's probably the biggest one in there that people know, but there's like that great big pig song called Hungry Town, which is fantastic.

[00:40:25] Oh yeah. I remember that one. The models, which is, I don't know how many of these bands you guys know. The bands like the models are fantastic, really great band.

[00:40:34] And then the saints, music goes around my head. I think the original version was from the easy beats. Maybe some of my musical friends will pick me up on that.

[00:40:44] And then I still love it, that stem song at first sight. It's one of my favourite songs. This is a great live-spiders song called "Wido Labido". Do you remember that from the movies?

[00:40:56] I think it's when they're in these silums. Yeah, that one's a lot of fun. And they're a great band as well. They have a, I suppose at this time it's a rather not very PC name for a song but they had a great single called "Slave Girl" back in the early 80s.

[00:41:12] But just a great song. They're really, they're like the song in the movie. They're very grungy and sort of hard sort of rock really good band.

[00:41:20] It had a lot of like alternative vibes to the soundtrack. And there are songs that probably wouldn't have been on an American soundtrack. The equivalent, like the US equivalent, wouldn't have been, it would have been like REM being on a soundtrack in '86 or something like that. It wouldn't have been time yet.

[00:41:37] It's a bit edgy. It's really good. Yeah. And the songs are really great. And they fit like I said before, they fit really well. So it's really good.

[00:41:45] A lot of Australian music, especially what was popular there and didn't come over here. It's kind of a blind spot for me. So these movies are great for me to like learn about a bunch of bands that just never filtered over.

[00:41:56] We got like some things like ACDC is one of my favorite bands and they're you know, I associate them with Australia. But a lot of stuff just didn't make it to me. So this is a lot of fun.

[00:42:07] Yeah, you got all the big stuff. Yeah, yeah, we got. Yeah. Yeah. You got all the big stuff. Yeah. ACDC they're probably the biggest ones. Right? Right. And once you start kind of looking in a bit further, mike, you'll find that there's there's a lot, especially if you start with bands like The Stems and The Limbs Biders and The Models.

[00:42:28] So they're really probably the models just great in so far as songs that they've released and they started out like the first single they had. But they're just a great band. They had so many great songs.

[00:42:41] I think I'm going to do a deep dive on all of them. Yeah. Really worth it. Really good. Yeah. One of the things I've noticed about Australian music and movies and really TV shows too, is that it's, I don't know if it's because you guys are so far away from everything.

[00:42:58] It's very unique when we look at it. It doesn't, it's not like anything that comes from here or other English speaking countries. It's really specific to Australia. And you can kind of tell them with the music and the movies.

[00:43:15] Like, oh, yeah, this is definitely an Australian band. And there's just a sense of like something really cool or really different about the music and the movies that come from Australia and New Zealand.

[00:43:27] For sure. For sure. Really interestingly. And this is pulling back the curtain a little bit. What I do sometimes to help me with figuring out synopsis and how I'm going to write and all that, I get a bit lazy.

[00:43:40] So I chucked it into chat GPT to say write me a two paragraph introduction to Young Einstein. And it actually got everything right, except it said hit songs by In excess. Oh, no!

[00:43:55] That's funny. You probably guessed it probably was like it's an Australian movie from this time. It's not Australian.

[00:44:02] It's an Islamic group. Yeah. Yeah. I'm probably going to be lambasted by other podcasters for using chat GPT, but I'm sure more people use it than they say.

[00:44:10] So it's helpful for stuff like that when you just want to write something quickly, but I don't want to sit there and think about because you've still got to, I think now we're going a bit off topic, but I think with tools like chat GPT.

[00:44:23] You've still got to be careful how you use it. Because if you just go do this and you just say that's going to be right, then I might not have looked at it properly and put up great songs by In excess.

[00:44:35] Now I knew that wasn't the case with this movie. But you've still got a sort of sanity check these things. Because it's not perfect.

[00:44:42] Well, and that is the perfect way to use it. Because you're asking it for factual information that otherwise you would just have to basically paraphrase from Wikipedia or whatever.

[00:44:56] So how is that even really any different?

[00:45:00] That's it. When I copy it into the dock and I start playing with it, I often write half of it everywhere, I mean things around.

[00:45:07] So for really, for me, it's just like a starting off point. So it's good. I don't know if you've ever tried using it, but it's actually quite handy.

[00:45:16] Yeah, I haven't tried using it for that. But I might.

[00:45:20] It's very interesting.

[00:45:21] Given us some ideas.

[00:45:23] Yeah, there you go. You can even write like, whole blog posts with it.

[00:45:27] Oh wow.

[00:45:27] It's quite amazing. Yeah. So it's good. All right. Any final thoughts?

[00:45:34] I would just encourage anybody who hasn't seen it to check it out. I'm really wanting to watch reckless Kelly.

[00:45:40] Because I know that it's a modernized version of Ned Kelly's story, which could be really fun. So I kind of want to check that out.

[00:45:48] And I would say any movie that's on this podcast, especially for American people, like, in less it's a more well known movie, definitely check it out for something that you're not going to see anywhere else.

[00:46:01] But this would be included in that.

[00:46:03] Absolutely, I'm thoroughly impressed with every movie you've recommended to me so far, like I, I will be one.

[00:46:11] This will be added to my like regular watching. And I'll listen to the soundtrack often. I think it's so much fun.

[00:46:16] I underestimated it by thinking of like the Polish or comparison. I was like, oh, this might be a fun slapsticky comedy.

[00:46:23] And it actually has a lot more going on than just that. And I thoroughly enjoyed it. Everybody should check it out.

[00:46:29] OK, excellent. You might not trust me once I get to has put horror because it's a VOD release and umbrella releasing it.

[00:46:39] And it's it was really like it's not coming out till I think May June, something like that.

[00:46:45] But I pre-order as soon as they bought it. I was like, I'm getting the special edition.

[00:46:48] The title kind of Real.

[00:46:50] I got to say, basically, it's basically this it's basically this pop group that goes away and has a goes on a house but for a weekend.

[00:46:57] And there's this like craze killer. It's basically a slasher.

[00:47:01] I mean, but it's just direct a video and the acting is fucking awful.

[00:47:07] I remember I remember seeing it years ago because I think one of the only places you can get it up till now is probably either illegally like on Pirate Bay or something like that.

[00:47:16] Or probably a crappy version on YouTube maybe somewhere.

[00:47:20] Some VHS room that somebody made.

[00:47:22] Yeah, well, yeah, I used to own the VHS. I wish I kept it because once this comes out, the VHS will probably increase in price and not that I buy things for that.

[00:47:32] But I wish I kept it just for the fact of keeping it. But you never know the time.

[00:47:36] You don't know what's going to be. It's pretty valuable. Yeah.

[00:47:39] Exactly. But yeah, so they're doing the whole thing.

[00:47:42] They've like somehow they've got this VOD and they've upscaled it to 1080p or something.

[00:47:47] And they've got all these extras and I'm thinking, how can you have all these extras for a movie that is like nobody knows about and is really a dodgy movie.

[00:47:58] It's quite funny.

[00:48:00] That's where they can't resist.

[00:48:02] Shutter did a special edition of Rock Dope or Blood or something?

[00:48:05] Yeah, it's like a fancy Blu-ray of that that has come out.

[00:48:09] Oh, really?

[00:48:10] Never underestimate.

[00:48:12] Never underestimate Severn or Vinegar Syndrome.

[00:48:15] They will scrape the barrel and treat it like it's Lawrence of Arabia, as far as actual features.

[00:48:23] I think Umbrella just started a partnership recently with Vinegar Syndrome.

[00:48:26] Oh, perfect.

[00:48:27] So you can buy their stuff straight off the Vinegar Syndrome site, stuff like that.

[00:48:31] But yeah, they've got some great release.

[00:48:34] I'm still waiting for my Weird Al movie to come.

[00:48:37] You know, the recent one with Daniel Radcliffe.

[00:48:39] Oh, yeah.

[00:48:40] It's right, you know.

[00:48:41] But the one I ordered from Umbrella has the blue because they got, somehow they ended up

[00:48:45] with distribution rights here and everywhere.

[00:48:48] And this set they put out, which I paid too much money for, has like the Blu-ray, has all

[00:48:55] this stuff.

[00:48:56] It has like a full-sized shirt, like a shirt, like a Weird Al sort of shirt that comes with

[00:49:01] it and everything.

[00:49:02] That's awesome.

[00:49:03] I paid $125 or something stupid.

[00:49:04] I've done the same for like package deals like that.

[00:49:08] So I totally get it.

[00:49:09] I did the same with them, they released the Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey thing.

[00:49:13] Which I've never seen is apparently really shit, but it's just the way the packaging looks

[00:49:17] and it was like $75 or 80, I was like, "Oh, fuck it, I'll buy it."

[00:49:22] I've heard it's really gory.

[00:49:23] And that is always the movie can be garbage if the effects look cool, it'll win me over.

[00:49:28] Yeah, exactly.

[00:49:29] It'll win you over.

[00:49:30] The other one I bought at the same time as those two was an Australian movie called

[00:49:34] The Tunnel that was made years ago.

[00:49:36] It was all about underground tunnels in Sydney, it's set.

[00:49:39] It's like a horror movie sort of thing.

[00:49:42] That looks pretty cool as well.

[00:49:44] Anyway, back to my final thoughts.

[00:49:46] I just think this is a really fun movie.

[00:49:48] I just think it's fun to watch the scenery is fantastic.

[00:49:54] The acting is pretty good in most, I think there's any really bad acting in this movie.

[00:49:59] No, no.

[00:50:00] I think Yahoo! Seriously and the woman that plays Marie Curie are both really lovely and

[00:50:07] endearing and sweet and that's the most important thing.

[00:50:11] If you can nail those two characters, everybody else can be a little iffy, but I think everybody

[00:50:17] is great.

[00:50:18] The actor playing Preston Preston is appropriately annoying and skeevy and he really nails that.

[00:50:25] He dik dastardly.

[00:50:31] Someone liked that in a movie like that.

[00:50:34] It would have been fun to play.

[00:50:37] I don't know if you've been watching Ted Lasso, do you watch that?

[00:50:41] I watched the first season Chris has watched the whole thing.

[00:50:45] There's a new character in this new season where they've bought this star player called

[00:50:52] Zava and he's so over the top, he's like one of these prima Donas soccer players and is

[00:50:58] used to earning millions of dollars and I'm just thinking whenever I watch that, I'm thinking

[00:51:03] the actor playing this part must be having so much fun.

[00:51:07] I thought the same with that Preston Preston thing, I was like, "Oh, actor must be having

[00:51:11] a lot of fun playing this part."

[00:51:13] I love his scene with Marie Curie where he's underestimating her and she's basically

[00:51:17] like "Oh no, the Nobel Prize, that she had won the year before," and he keeps thinking

[00:51:23] that she's not going to know what he's talking about or whatever.

[00:51:25] I love that.

[00:51:27] The other shout-out I've got to give with this movie is you know the B Company, the

[00:51:31] Preston Preston ghost.

[00:51:32] So the one of the main characters in there is Jonathan Coleman who is a radio presenter

[00:51:39] and TV presenter in Australia at that time and a bit later on.

[00:51:44] He's a really funny guy, sadly passed away last year I think, a year before.

[00:51:49] But he's in this movie as well.

[00:51:51] Every time I see these movies, especially the ones made in the 80s and 90s, you go, "Oh,

[00:51:57] they've been in that and they've been in that and they're more than that and that's

[00:52:00] quite good."

[00:52:02] But yeah, definitely worth a watch and I would recommend pretty much to everyone to have

[00:52:08] a look at it and like Mike or if you can get your hands on the soundtrack, I think it's

[00:52:12] a really good soundtrack.

[00:52:14] It's definitely worth that.

[00:52:15] I'm going to go and do the same.

[00:52:17] I hope we're not going to end up bidding on the same one.

[00:52:19] I'll let you have it.

[00:52:21] Oh no, you can have it, it's all right, I'm a nice guy.

[00:52:27] So, what's going on with you guys?

[00:52:29] I know you guys have a new podcast, so let's, if you can tell us a bit about that.

[00:52:33] Oh, yeah.

[00:52:34] Take the lead on this.

[00:52:36] So we started a roundtable intersectional feminist podcast where we talk about media,

[00:52:43] mostly movies right now, but we do want to talk about books and TV shows, but just through

[00:52:49] a lens of intersectional feminism and then focusing on the femme presenting characters

[00:52:56] and also femme presenting in non-binary directors, filmmakers, writers, maybe even actors, just

[00:53:06] sort of going full circle where I started with my first podcast, Girls in the Back Row,

[00:53:10] where we're kind of looking at movies as a femme audience and doing that with a bunch

[00:53:16] of different people.

[00:53:19] It's been really fun.

[00:53:20] We have a great group of people, the show is called the "Stilato Banshees."

[00:53:25] Kind of came from an in joke from a listener of test pattern and we sort of branched out

[00:53:31] from there with a very cool logo.

[00:53:33] Amazing.

[00:53:34] It is, it's really good.

[00:53:36] Yeah, it's been really fun.

[00:53:39] I think the group that we have is excellent.

[00:53:43] There's a lot of different lived experiences, so we're getting a lot of different perspectives.

[00:53:48] We just recorded an episode on the work of Analili-Amerpour.

[00:53:52] So we talked about a girl walks home alone at night, her second movie, "The Bad Batch,"

[00:53:57] and then the episode that she did for "Germel Dol Toro's Cabinet of Curiosity" is called

[00:54:02] "The Outside."

[00:54:04] And that was so much fun and we really got to kind of dig into some of the topics in those

[00:54:12] movies specific to the femme presenting characters and each of those.

[00:54:16] And we're getting ready to do Carrie and we're going to sort of talk about all the different

[00:54:21] iterations of Carrie, including maybe a little bit about the musical.

[00:54:25] I will make sure of that because I'm actually a big fan of the musical.

[00:54:28] I think the musical is great.

[00:54:30] Yeah, so--

[00:54:31] Have you seen it?

[00:54:32] I haven't seen clips, but I've mainly listened to it.

[00:54:34] I think it's really fun musical theater music.

[00:54:38] Yep.

[00:54:39] But yeah, so if that interests you, we're taking the sort of analytical side of test

[00:54:46] pattern and really honing and focusing it into one specific topic.

[00:54:51] And I think we're filling in kind of a hole in the podcasting about movies.

[00:54:57] Yeah.

[00:54:58] That's out of it.

[00:54:59] I listened to the first episode.

[00:55:01] I thought it was really good.

[00:55:02] It's like a cast of thousands.

[00:55:03] Thank you.

[00:55:04] So many people, so many diverse voices, which is great.

[00:55:08] Yeah.

[00:55:09] So it's really good.

[00:55:10] Yeah.

[00:55:11] It's going to be--

[00:55:12] The panel's pretty great.

[00:55:13] It's going to be a good listen.

[00:55:14] Yeah.

[00:55:15] Yeah.

[00:55:16] There's a lot of you.

[00:55:17] How many was on that first episode as found?

[00:55:18] I think there were eight people in the first episode of--

[00:55:19] Yeah.

[00:55:20] Yeah, eight people in the first episode.

[00:55:21] We've added one more person and we plan on adding others, but not everybody necessarily

[00:55:26] will be on every episode.

[00:55:28] Okay.

[00:55:29] That's the design.

[00:55:30] So people can get out.

[00:55:31] If they need to, if they maybe don't want to do that topic for whatever reason, there's

[00:55:36] enough in our stable of people that we can go on without that.

[00:55:41] That's really good.

[00:55:42] Yeah.

[00:55:43] Excellent.

[00:55:44] Yeah.

[00:55:45] Excellent.

[00:55:46] Fantastic.

[00:55:47] And where do we find podcasts on socials?

[00:55:49] So we're not on Twitter, just because Twitter is a dumpster fire now.

[00:55:53] But we are on Instagram.

[00:55:54] We post a lot of kind of behind the scenes stuff on there.

[00:55:59] And we're on Spotify, because Micah is making playlists for each episode that, you know,

[00:56:04] are sort of specific to the episode and also specific to things she's recommending.

[00:56:10] Yeah, highlighting them representing or trans non-binary type bands that I think need

[00:56:17] more attention.

[00:56:19] Yeah.

[00:56:20] Okay.

[00:56:21] And then we're also on Letterbox.

[00:56:22] So you can find us on Instagram at the Stiletto Banshees.

[00:56:26] You can find us on Spotify if you search for Stiletto Banshees.

[00:56:31] And then Letterbox is letterbox.com/Stiletto Banshees.

[00:56:36] So singular.

[00:56:38] They just don't give you enough characters to put everything there.

[00:56:41] Do you have a website as well?

[00:56:42] Yes.

[00:56:43] We have a website, it's the Stiletto Banshees.com and very extensive episode notes.

[00:56:48] You can also download the episodes from there to in case you don't have a podcast app,

[00:56:54] although I don't know who doesn't.

[00:56:55] Who doesn't do station.

[00:56:57] They come on those phones.

[00:57:00] So many.

[00:57:01] And it's so hard to keep up.

[00:57:03] So it's excellent.

[00:57:05] So that's your main thing at the moment for both of you?

[00:57:07] Yeah, I'm going to school, so that's a lot for me.

[00:57:10] I heard you changed a bit, yeah, yeah.

[00:57:12] Yeah, I have a couple of things I'm working on, but nothing really to announce just yet.

[00:57:17] But my social is Miss Valentine 138.

[00:57:20] That's MS Valentine 138 on Instagram.

[00:57:24] That's mainly my social media.

[00:57:26] Yeah, I was going to say tap your socials.

[00:57:28] Yeah, I'm on Instagram as well with an individual account horror flick tab.

[00:57:32] So yeah, you can follow me for sporadic posts about random stuff.

[00:57:36] Yeah.

[00:57:37] That's insane.

[00:57:38] Since like my main one, I just randomly put stuff.

[00:57:41] Do you want to know what I'm listening to?

[00:57:43] Follow me on Instagram.

[00:57:44] Yeah, that's a very good follow.

[00:57:47] Excellent, excellent.

[00:57:49] All right.

[00:57:50] Well, thank you both so very much for coming on.

[00:57:52] It's been great for you.

[00:57:53] Thank you for having us.

[00:57:54] Thank you to your both.

[00:57:55] It's really good.

[00:57:56] Especially about these sort of movies.

[00:57:57] It's really great.

[00:57:58] But we might branch out into some other stuff in the future.

[00:58:01] So at that we send to get ones like with you, Mike, how we have those movies like we did

[00:58:06] Strange Behaving.

[00:58:07] We had that great musical in the middle as always, the music bits.

[00:58:10] Yeah.

[00:58:11] I still think about that song almost every couple of days, I don't know why.

[00:58:15] I listened to it regularly.

[00:58:16] I love that song.

[00:58:18] That's the best part of the movie.

[00:58:20] It is.

[00:58:21] It's really good.

[00:58:22] Anyway.

[00:58:23] Thank you both for coming on.

[00:58:24] Yes.

[00:58:25] Thank you for having us.

[00:58:26] Yeah, thanks.

[00:58:27] I'm sure we'll be back in the future.

[00:58:28] Thank you for taking the time to listen to this episode.

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